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Sky
01-17-2009, 04:10 AM
I do have a question to whoever can answer it, either the staff or anyone. You may delete this as well after the answer. But i would like to know when the others left coL for whatever reason, was it on bad terms? Do you hold a grudge is what I am thinking. Or is it just business ? Just something I think should be cleared up. Because everyone knows they left, but did they stab you in the back as they did it... or was it just something that was understandable? On my end, I see it as a stab in the back, but I have made that clear a few times in some of my posts. Thanks for reading this and I hope to get a real answer not some criticism from someone.

deLay
01-17-2009, 04:14 AM
Well, the team told Jason they would stay with coL till Jan 1st of 09 to see if he could get sponsorship to fund the travel necessary for tournies.. they left before that time, so however u wanna look at it.. I think most people see it as just business but I don't think the team handled the situation in a professional manner. That being said, it is the past and we must look to the future, the bright sunman filled future. :)

Sky
01-17-2009, 04:18 AM
I am not trying to bring up the past. Really as a fan of coL and other fans that might not know the whole story. Kind of just thinking of why. Thank you for clearing it up I don't want to be the DOWNER! on this GLORIES day of coL09 :) as I said , I got my answer so we can delete this if you would like. Thanks for the help deLay.

mascot
01-17-2009, 10:58 AM
I personally have lost respect for the old Complexity players. Jason is the one person who made them what they are today, and they can't even respect him enough to stick it out through the tough.

My personal opinion is the fact that money went to their head after CGS. Everyone knew Jason could make Complexity exactly what it was and probably even better. It was just the decision of the players that was made poorly.

jose
01-17-2009, 11:05 AM
Lock this thread please, I don't want it to turn out to a flamefest :/

Trevor
01-17-2009, 11:16 AM
lol i forget where but 1 states that he thinks of that team as family

diamond
01-17-2009, 10:38 PM
I personally have lost respect for the old Complexity players. Jason is the one person who made them what they are today, and they can't even respect him enough to stick it out through the tough.

My personal opinion is the fact that money went to their head after CGS. Everyone knew Jason could make Complexity exactly what it was and probably even better. It was just the decision of the players that was made poorly.

Has got it.

Sky
01-18-2009, 06:34 AM
Sorry you guys feel like you have lost respect to them.. but you cant put your heads on there's. They have been given a gift to play at the level they do. I am all about loyalty don't get me wrong if Jason would have done what he has done for me i would have stuck by him no mater what. But you have to realize like any other pro sport that it is about business and that is what it is. So hating them isnt a right thing to do. Because if you have a favorit pro sport team. Example what LeBron James might be doing in 2010, with the knicks really it would be letting all of Cleveland down to be honest he will be hated by them and fans. But he will be millions richer, for him and his family, and playing in a place that he may like better. Same purpose here. Execpt I do agree with the loyalty part of things. Because I have never seen another manager do what Jason has done before for a team. So I am on the line of calling them traders, and also on the line of, "hey, thats the way business goes." If your a pro gamer I am sure that they can relate to what EG.usa did, the reasons why they did it. I think they did it the wrong way... but my opinion does not matter.

mascot
01-18-2009, 10:33 AM
Sorry you guys feel like you have lost respect to them.. but you cant put your heads on there's. They have been given a gift to play at the level they do. I am all about loyalty don't get me wrong if Jason would have done what he has done for me i would have stuck by him no mater what. But you have to realize like any other pro sport that it is about business and that is what it is. So hating them isnt a right thing to do. Because if you have a favorit pro sport team. Example what LeBron James might be doing in 2010, with the knicks really it would be letting all of Cleveland down to be honest he will be hated by them and fans. But he will be millions richer, for him and his family, and playing in a place that he may like better. Same purpose here. Execpt I do agree with the loyalty part of things. Because I have never seen another manager do what Jason has done before for a team. So I am on the line of calling them traders, and also on the line of, "hey, thats the way business goes." If your a pro gamer I am sure that they can relate to what EG.usa did, the reasons why they did it. I think they did it the wrong way... but my opinion does not matter.

I think it is foolish of them to leave a team that can offer the same, if not more, then they are currently getting. I don't know the stipulations of their contracts, or even if they have one. I do know that Jason has the willingness to pull together a great organization in a very short amount of time. So it is foolish for a team to abandon him after a whole two to three months of being inactive, which wasn't even Jason's fault. The money went to their head, that is the simple fact. In video games money should never go to your head... In pro sports, where you are getting paid millions a year, I can see someone selling out to another team, but not video games.

My opinion.

Sky
01-22-2009, 12:21 AM
I agree with what you said mascot, very much. So in my mind, it does not make sense to me also.

phunk
01-22-2009, 05:46 AM
They did what they thought was necessary for them. All good things will end eventually, it's just a matter of when they end and how they end. '09 would have been something like the 6th year most of them have been with Lake. I think they wanted some change, but I also think it was for the money.

Honestly, we can all contemplate till our hearts desire, but what we think will never be 100 percent correct and will never bring them back. Good luck to them and to the new coL. (I still have some respect for Tyler over there)