You see it in Europe a lot, and I know that Europe is a lot different than the states. But the WoW community is huge. There is a very large following for World First kills. Why not try and capitalize on it. I mean you see Paragon going to LANs and doing raids. Right there in front of people. I am sure that we/you could find a way to bring that to the states. Sure it isn't the awesomeness of a good CS match, or the intensity of some PVP. But at the same time there is a lot of people who want to see it. I think you could really draw out people to the some of these LANs just by having a top US guild there doing a full clear. Wouldn't this create more exposure for everyone? Yes I know that the states closest guild to Paragon is a month or two behind. Point is how do we know that having a name like Complexity wouldn't light a fire under that guilds ass. Blood Legion for instance could have gotten the world first, but maybe they don't have or didn't have that little extra driving force behind them. I mean I know they are wanting to win a race eventually but maybe it should be looked at elsewhere. I mean maybe the US isn't ready for 25 man raids and could use a 10 man raid. But have these avenues been even considered?